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Steve in Perth, Keep in mind that fuel has nothing to do with cruise control or ABS braking systems. Those may be electrical issues or possibly electronic control unit issues. Also those systems may have their own independent control units that are malfunctioning. Any codes from the electronic control unit will not specifically say that it is a fuel issue but rather that a specific component may be compromised like an O2 sensor. Those specific things might should be replaced as well as running clean E0 gas through the engine for a prolonged period of time.

Newer vehicles, especially those built since '08 have computer controls that constantly make adjustments on the engine and will compensate for the type of fuel you use. Performance generally isn't affected but fuel economy is affected by the use of ethanol or not. – Jonathan LathburyAtlanta, Georgia (November 21, 2016)
Jonathan. I'm certainly not a mechanical technician so I couldn't begin to explain what is going on, but it was the Toyota tech who made the connection. If I got this right, anytime the engine icon comes on, those other functions shut off. In my car, the engine icon does come on, along with the all-wheel icon and the VSC (?) light. They are drawing the connection to the fuel because they feel the 2 sensors are getting mixed messages due to the ethanol.

They have hooked it up to the computer a number of times and recorded the codes.They are trying to save me the expense of a new catalytic converter if the fuel is the problem.

The lights used to go on and off which is, they said, a good sign. They stay on all the time now. I will be making a long (12 hr.) trip in a week or so. I hope that will help as long as I run only the E0 gas enroute. – StevePerth, Ontario (November 21, 2016)
Steve, I do not profess to be a Toyota expert. I'm sure your mechanic has a good handle on the problem. I have seen the effects of ethanol on catalytic converters, fuel pumps, and fuel injectors on other cars.

One other idea that your mechanic may have suggested. Before you leave for your trip, disconnect the battery for a few minutes and then reconnect it. This will clear the codes and reset the ECU. Then run E0 gas for the duration and see if the light comes back on. Also keep a log of your fuel economy to see if there is any improvement. Good luck. – Jonathan LathburyAtlanta, Georgia (November 21, 2016)
Good suggestions. I have made this trip many times before so using it as a gauge of fuel consumption should be informative. Thanks again for all your help. – StevePerth, Ontario (November 22, 2016)
Brain not working today. What does the O stand for in E-O ? – MikeWI-AZ (November 23, 2016)
"Zero ethanol." – SamSanta Fe, NM (November 23, 2016)
To expand on Sam's answer to Mike, Ethanol blended gas is commonly referred to as E10 for 10% blend, E15 for 15% blend, E20 for 20% blend, and E85 for 55% to 85% blend. Many gas station pumps will be labeled E10, E85 and so forth. So it seemed appropriate that a zero ethanol blend or pure gas should be labeled as E0 and indeed Racetrac uses that labeling for its non-ethanol gas. However up in the midwest Holiday and some others will say non-oxy for non-oxygenated gas which is the same as non-ethanol or E0. Ethanol and methanol are considered oxygenates to ad to gas. Sunoco also uses the "oxy" labeling for its high octane fuels. – Jonathan LathburyAtlanta, Georgia (November 23, 2016)
Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation, Jonathan...Usually, I take a route through Kansas from Wisconsin on way to Arizona snowbird house. After attending my nephew's wedding in Sept in Dillon, Colorado been learning the non-ethanol stops in CO. There are not many in CO, but think I'll make it through without spending a penny for ethanol!(Of course, it's a whole different ball game in Arizona) Thanks much to Real-Gas.org!... Its good to share the learning experience with others, because many keep their blinders on. Don't know if it's the American way or just human nature. – MikeWaldo (November 24, 2016)
Correction: Pure-gas.org....I knew that – MikeWaldo, WI (November 24, 2016)
Mike in transit from Wi to Az, I am very familiar with Arizona's availability or lack thereof of E0 gas. Several of the stations I personally listed just to get some sort of E0 foot hold in Az. You might want to make effort to go through Flagstaff. Carter Oil sells 87 octane E0 at reasonable prices. But if you're not a Pacific Pride card holder then you'll need to go there during business hours to pay for fuel. If you're making this trek a couple times a year then I recommend getting an account to have a Pacific Pride card. It will come in handy more than you might think. Make sure you get a card with no fuel restrictions in case you have to buy premium E0. Safe travels. – Jonathan LathburyAtlanta, Georgia (November 24, 2016)
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